I had an Elder leave a four minute message on my answering machine last week inviting me to the Zoom memorial. He said that Jehovah still cares for me. I never called him back. The less I say, the better I'm off.
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Just invited to a zoom memorial.
by Overrated inwalked away from the trooth years ago(over 20) my older sister sends me an invite to the memorial via zoom.
i have no interest in jwism at all.
should i ignore or respond?.
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My first Kingdom Hall zoom meeting
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini haven't been to any meetings in the last 9 years.
besides a couple of elder visits here and there, i've been pretty much left alone.
my family has also left me alone, and haven't acted any different towards me.. this week my brother, his daughter and his son all called me to invite me for the next weeks memorial and also my nephew's first sunday talk, which he gave today at noon.
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Can I ask what country you are in? Because I’m interested when you say publishers need to make up time by contacting inactive ones.
I'm from Northern Illinois, U.S.A. My niece is a pioneer and has never called me in the 9 years I've been inactive. She called me to pad her pioneer hours. She told me that she mails letters and calls on the phone. No house to house in over one year. She has a list of return visits and either calls them or sends them a letter.
So, she called me to see how everyone is and also total the time she spent on the phone with me and add them to her monthly pioneer hours.
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My first Kingdom Hall zoom meeting
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini haven't been to any meetings in the last 9 years.
besides a couple of elder visits here and there, i've been pretty much left alone.
my family has also left me alone, and haven't acted any different towards me.. this week my brother, his daughter and his son all called me to invite me for the next weeks memorial and also my nephew's first sunday talk, which he gave today at noon.
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So are you going to the memorial?
I think I'm going to listen in. I had an Elder a couple of days ago invite me to the Zoom Memorial. He left a four minute message about how Jehovah hasn't given up on me and that my congregation misses me in this difficult year. I'm not calling him back, but will get the password from my family. The radar is on all the irregular attending witnesses because they need to fill in their service hours with letters and phone calls.
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My first Kingdom Hall zoom meeting
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini haven't been to any meetings in the last 9 years.
besides a couple of elder visits here and there, i've been pretty much left alone.
my family has also left me alone, and haven't acted any different towards me.. this week my brother, his daughter and his son all called me to invite me for the next weeks memorial and also my nephew's first sunday talk, which he gave today at noon.
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I haven't been to any meetings in the last 9 years. Besides a couple of Elder visits here and there, I've been pretty much left alone. My family has also left me alone, and haven't acted any different towards me.
This week my brother, his daughter and his son all called me to invite me for the next weeks Memorial and also my nephew's first Sunday talk, which he gave today at noon. I told my nephew that I would watch his first talk. He gives me the user I.D. and password.
I downloaded Zoom and got in with no problem. You had a choice of being seen on camera or not. I chose not to be seen. There were 120 members on the Zoom meeting. Some chose to appear on camera and many chose not to be seen. They were all greeting each other. The Elder announced that you needed to shut your audio off so there would be no distractions. There was a song and a prayer.
I chose to have a split screen and watch all the members who chose to show their face. Everyone was dressed as if they were at a regular Kingdom Hall meeting. You could see everyone in their kitchens, dining rooms and family rooms. Some looked bored, some were nodding off for a few seconds and some were motionless. I don't know why anyone would show their face and have every movement shown on camera.
My nephew gave a very nice talk about Matthew 13, where a fine pearl was found for its value and how it was treasured. A talk I've heard a hundred times. Nothing that was said was ground breaking or new.
Everyone clapped at the ending of the talk. The Watchtower conductor started his spiel about staying for the Watchtower Study. I decided to log off.
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Spiritually Weak Ones Are Bad Association according to the Governing Body
by RULES & REGULATIONS inafter you read the words of jesus in mark 2: 17, you will see that the contrast between the teachings of jesus and the governing body.. .
you clearly read what's written in the bible, but the society is always twisting and bending scriptures to their benefit.
here is stephen lett talking about ''spiritually weak'' members and twisting jesus's words teaching on sinners:.
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After you read the words of Jesus in Mark 2: 17, you will see that the contrast between the teachings of Jesus and the Governing Body.
You clearly read what's written in the Bible, but the Society is always twisting and bending scriptures to their benefit. Here is Stephen Lett talking about ''spiritually weak'' members and twisting Jesus's words teaching on sinners:
'' Think about someone who is physically sick and is running a high fever. If we spend a lot of time with that person, we will probably catch the same sickness. Or worse, if we spend a lot of time with a dead body, a corpse, we will probably pick up a disease.''
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What is the most insensitive thing an Overseer or Elder has ever said and done to you?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat is the most insensitive thing an overseer or elder has ever said and done to you?
i have had many insensitive things said to me by some elders, but for some reason one self-righteous elder was always on my case.
he didn't like the fact that i missed meetings, didn't like that i never went out in field service, that i didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that i carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag.
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I wasn't hurt by what they said as I was expecting nothing else from them anyways. I was so used to being double face with them that I actually said thank you for coming and right after they left, called my mother. And yet, to this day, I still regret not confronting them about their inhuman intervention/ I should have thrown them out of my place.
I regret not confronting the Elder who was pretty nasty to me. There were many times I should have thrown a punch at him, times I should have called him out and times I should of thrown him out of my house.
This Elder was a self-righteous bastard, who always had to impress the District and Circuit Overseers when they paid their biannual visits. He would avoid talking to me or even shaking my hand at our Kingdom Hall. He always brought over the Overseers to my house to show how much concern he had for the lost sheep. He tells me during one visit in my home, ''how much he loves me and hopes that I take their advice on showing up at the meetings more often and to start back in field service.'' I should have called him on it to the Overseers but didn't.
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What is the most insensitive thing an Overseer or Elder has ever said and done to you?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat is the most insensitive thing an overseer or elder has ever said and done to you?
i have had many insensitive things said to me by some elders, but for some reason one self-righteous elder was always on my case.
he didn't like the fact that i missed meetings, didn't like that i never went out in field service, that i didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that i carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag.
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What is the most insensitive thing an Overseer or Elder has ever said and done to you?
I have had many insensitive things said to me by some Elders, but for some reason one self-righteous Elder was always on my case. He didn't like the fact that I missed meetings, didn't like that I never went out in field service, that I didn't answer at the weekly meetings and he didn't like that I carried my books and magazines in my hands and not a service/book bag. He would pay me visits and tell me, ''the only reason you come to the meetings is to make your family happy.'' He was right, but the reason wasn't his business.
Here is a conversation that I had where his self-righteousness came out. I was talking to my mom after the meeting and he jumps into the conversation:
My Mom: ''Are you coming over today so we can see the Kids?''
Me : ''Yes! We will come over later today.''
Here comes self-righteous Elder to bother me as usual:
Elder to my mom: ''How are you feeling?''
My Mom : '' Well, you know I have a lot of health issues. I wish my health was as good as my son's.''
Elder to my Mom: ''Well, he may be physically healthier than you but not '' spiritually'' healthier than you.''
He walks away.
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Strange midweek meeting '' initial call '' demonstration
by RULES & REGULATIONS incan it get any weirder?
here is a demonstration of a midweek meeting demonstration, showing a sister out in field service talking to a householder.
they are both wearing masks due to covid.
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I got the impression that this is not formal field service but informally seeing someone wearing a mask and commending her for that.
From what I watched, this looks like a formal field service visit. Notice what the elder says before introducing the sister's demonstration:
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Strange midweek meeting '' initial call '' demonstration
by RULES & REGULATIONS incan it get any weirder?
here is a demonstration of a midweek meeting demonstration, showing a sister out in field service talking to a householder.
they are both wearing masks due to covid.
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Can it get any weirder? Here is a demonstration of a midweek meeting demonstration, showing a sister out in field service talking to a householder. They are both wearing masks due to COVID.
What country is letting Jehovah's Witnesses preach house to house during COVID? How can anyone understand what they are saying talking through a mask? The sister shows the householder a minute and a half video about the Jehovah's Witnesses. The householder gives the sister her phone number so she can talk further about Jehovah.
I sat through many unrealistic demonstrations, but this one really takes the cake!
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Can a person resign from being one of Jehovah's Witness?
by RULES & REGULATIONS incan a person resign from being one of jehovah’s witnesses?.
frequently asked questions.
a person can resign from our organization in two ways:.
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- w88 4/15 pp. 26-31
- Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit
10 We can be just as sure that God’s arrangement that Christians refuse to fellowship with someone who has been expelled for unrepentant sin is a wise protection for us. “Clear away the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, according as you are free from ferment.” (1 Corinthians 5:7) By also avoiding persons who have deliberately disassociated themselves, Christians are protected from possible critical, unappreciative, or even apostate views.—Hebrews 12:15, 16.
14 The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man.”—1 Corinthians 5:11.